Costumo fazer um esfor o extra para entender mentes que s o complexas e publicam livros sem qualquer preocupa o com a simplicidade Alguns conceitos apresentados nesta obra s o interessantes, o problema que alguns cap tulos eu simplesmente n o consegui ler como se o autor n o fizesse quest o alguma que o leitor os entendesse N o recomendo a leitura, na d vida, procure outro livro. A loop within a loop within a loop No matter what you thought you knew about programming and meta programming, this read will blast you away Hofstadter along with Lilly will let you take control of the ultimate empire Your mind One of our greatest philosophers and scientists of the mind asks where the self comes from and how our selves can exist in the minds of others Can thought arise out of matter Can self, soul, consciousness, I arise out of mere matter If it cannot, then how can you or I be here I Am a Strange Loop argues that the key to understanding selves and consciousness is the strange loop a special kind of abstract feedback loop inhabiting our brains The most central and complex symbol in your brain is the one called I The I is the nexus in our brain, one of many symbols seeming to have free will and to have gained the paradoxical ability to push particles around, rather than the reverse How can a mysterious abstraction be real or is our I merely a convenient fiction Does an I exert genuine power over the particles in our brain, or is it helplessly pushed around by the laws of physics These are the mysteries tackled in I Am a Strange Loop, Douglas Hofstadter s first book length journey into philosophy since G del, Escher, Bach Compulsively listenable and endlessly thought provoking, this is a moving and profound inquiry into the nature of mind PLEASE NOTE When you purchase this title, the accompanying PDF will be available in your Audible Library along with the audio A very personal book that held my attention but it did not seem like the update sequel to GEB Godel, Escher, Bach An Eternal Golden Braid that I hoped it would be. Pick up The mind s I if you can as well They work well together. Disorganized rambling and utterly boring Nothing particularly new to be learned here Don t waste your time, I to struggled to finish it. Not for everyone but if you stick with it is enlightening but not an easy read. Hofstader gets a lot of flak for this book It comes down to the difference between Hofstader fans and Hofstader critics.If you are a fan, you will appreciate the effort Hofstader makes to articulate how he thinks of his own mind in the most open and intimate way Buried in his menagerie of personal obsessions such as self referential systems , we find some genuinely insightful ideas, such as that the brain can conjure up independent centres of consciousness aside from the one we experience Once you understand this idea, it immediately becomes obvious and you wonder why nobody else has put his finger on it But you can read these speculations as good questions asked by a respected friend or you could hear them as a lame attempt to cope with terrible loss.If you are not a fan, you won t find much of value here As an introduction to Hofstader, it s a terrible choice You will find the book self indulgent, rambling and un focussed You will not go away understanding what Hofstader means by A Strange Loop Expecting science or philosophy, you will find autobiography.For those who are curious to find the very best of Hofstader s ideas, stripped of the autobiography, I highly recommend Surfaces and Essences For the fans, this is not a book you want to miss. If Douglas Hofstadter was heard and understood, there would be peace in the world He clarified in this book what the spectrum of feeling is This is the complete demonstration of empathy I d love it if someone could rewrite it to include machine learning edge detection granularly into his analysis of self perception and representation Here he sometimes misses the mark ever so slightly But that is statistic noise at other times he goes beyond perfection.His pages on the death of his wife I was brought to tears and to deepen the already deepest bonds I have with my friends. But rather repetitive.